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Old 01-01-2005, 08:16 PM   #1
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edit: Who is the fellow who after chomsky speaks bashes him? I don't get the video on that so I could only hear his voice. Some english actor or something? He states that Chomsky believes that the world was better with saddam when what he really said was:
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Its certainly true that the world is better off without Saddam Hussein, and also without the people who supported him through his worst atrocities, and are now telling us about them.
Bill Maher was the one that said he doesn't believe Bush's statement that the world is better off without SH...:
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MAHER: Now, President Bush always says the world is better off without Saddam Hussein. And I havent agreed with that. I think the people who were in his rape rooms are better off without Saddam Hussein. [applause] Thats a far cry from the whole world.
he just sorta pussed out and let that english guy go on a rant against Chomsky after he was gone. I would love to see him go face to face and try to have an intelligent debate with the prof....
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Chomsky has some good ideas but he was way off on that Nuremberg Trials remark. I know a lot of young people who love the guy, but I've come across older people who hate the man. Apparantly he was strong supporter of communism in his youth. He is on the money when it comes to his literature on Iraq, but I'm not so sure about his views on socialism.
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Old 01-02-2005, 12:21 AM   #3
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I think the point he is trying to make is that we seldom apply the same standards to ourselves as we do our enemies. One example that comes to mind was from McNamara in The Fog of War. The former Sec. of Defence said of his involvement in the firebombing of Japan, that he knew, should the US loose the war, that he would be tried as a war criminal. I can't say I've read much about what system Chomsky believes to be the best, though he has spoken highly of Brazil's current model. I think that having a universal code of morals/ethics with regards to the treatment of people should be strictly enforced. Even if it might dirty the now hero-like legendary status of some old American players, I think that it would send a big wake-up call to the world if we were to look at our own through the same magnifying glass that we apply to our enemies. That coupled with the idea that corporations should be held accountable for their actions in the same sense that an individual is held accountable for theirs is what I always thought Chomsky was about.

To speak further of the Nuremberg Tribunal, what would you say about our tactics during the Vietnam war? Would they warrant a discussion of possible war crimes?
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To speak further of the Nuremberg Tribunal, what would you say about our tactics during the Vietnam war?* Would they warrant a discussion of possible war crimes?
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That question can get you in a lot of trouble. Just ask John Kerry
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yeah no kidding. I just heard on the news not long ago that no vietnam vet has ever won the presidency. I guess its just another part of history that "we" aren't ready to face.
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